TNC
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Post by TNC on Feb 8, 2023 8:42:14 GMT -8
The disgusting tactics of The Schons has resulted in one fan to create a petition to fire Schon. This same fan got into a back and forth with Schon last night. Schon blocked, unblocked him, and blocked him again. He eventually DMed him and said "Let's roll. Attorneys are watching." (or something of that nature). Even for a 4-foot midget, hiding behind imaginary lawyers is a real small dick move. Through all the ups and downs (tapegate etc.), I never thought we would see members of the band resort to sexual McCarthyism (Arnel's closeted? Cain bangs whores?). What on earth is going on here? I mean this is some truly vile and sleazy shit. www.change.org/p/fire-neal-schon-from-journey
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Post by tj on Feb 8, 2023 11:56:49 GMT -8
The disgusting tactics of The Schons has resulted in one fan to create a petition to fire Schon. This same fan got into a back and forth with Schon last night. Schon blocked, unblocked him, and blocked him again. He eventually DMed him and said "Let's roll. Attorneys are watching." (or something of that nature). Even for a 4-foot midget, hiding behind imaginary lawyers is a real small dick move. Through all the ups and downs (tapegate etc.), I never thought we would see members of the band resort to sexual McCarthyism (Arnel's closeted? Cain bangs whores?). What on earth is going on here? I mean this is some truly vile and sleazy shit. www.change.org/p/fire-neal-schon-from-journeyI would love for Deano to have been around to participate in this. No one outside of hardcore Journey fans knows who Neal is. Most casual fans know more about Arnel than they ever will about Neal. He's a great player, helped write some great songs, but a complete clown. Years ago, he said that there are a thousand guys who could play his licks better than him. He's right. He ought to be thankful for what he has had, have someone put him on a budget and allowance, shut up, and play while he still can.
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Post by slucero on Feb 8, 2023 15:15:12 GMT -8
There isn't a bus long enough for the person Neal has become....
Herbie's turning over in his grave right now...
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Post by tj on Feb 8, 2023 16:43:46 GMT -8
There isn't a bus long enough for the person Neal has become.... Herbie's turning over in his grave right now... Herbie also knew what he did(n't) have in these guys. The old Castle's Burning interview was quite enlightening. When I first read it 20 years or so ago, my first thought was that it was sour grapes because they had dumped him with TBF. The more we have seen from all of them over the last almost 30 years is that Herbie was spot on. You can be a decent person and make mistakes. It happens to all of us. When your life is full of poor decisions, poor relationships, anger, narcissism, greed and such, you aren't a good person who makes some mistakes. You are a bad person who occasionally makes a good decision and pretends to be a good person. Herbie saw this throughout the industry and within his own band. Neal Schon is nothing without Herbie. The only reason Neal has anything today is because Herbie put it all together and held it together for 20+ years. Herbie did such an amazing job that Neal and Jon have been able to ride the coattails of that work for another 30 years. People say it's about the songs or Perry's sound (which Arnel emulates). But there have been thousands of bands who have written great songs and had amazing singers that are not even heard of today. The reason Journey is known is because Herbie got them on the map and kept them there when they couldn't stop tripping over their own feet. Neal's personality won't ever allow him to acknowledge it, but to anyone who has watched this band as long as most of us have knows it.
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Post by slucero on Feb 8, 2023 20:25:44 GMT -8
Neal is an actual unicorn... A true musical prodigy.
The problem is that from the age of 15 has been surrounded by people (including Herbie) who did nothing but tell him how great he was... and growing up in that bubble shaped the man he is today. From Herbie till now, he's been living in this bubble ever since. There is no way he could turn out any different than he has. The narcissism was fully predictable.
He has to own his actions because he's an adult, but because he's never known consequence or contrition, he'll always do what narcissists do... blame everyone else.
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Post by tj on Feb 18, 2023 12:07:56 GMT -8
Fan quality video, so take it for what it's worth. Arnel sound seriously flat in several places - especially the high notes. Everything else sounds as expected.
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Post by slucero on Feb 18, 2023 14:28:42 GMT -8
I seriously can't listen to DSB anymore...
I prefer anything up to Departure, and select cuts after that...
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Post by slucero on Feb 22, 2023 20:35:46 GMT -8
watching Rolie onstage doing Feeling That Way.... man Arnel looks bored as fuck
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Post by tj on Feb 23, 2023 12:28:56 GMT -8
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Post by tj on Feb 23, 2023 12:43:46 GMT -8
Gregg looks his age (don't we all) and has some trouble hitting the high notes on Anytime. Not sure why Deen is singing the Perry parts on Feeling That Way. Really fun to see Luke and Neal playing Black Magic Woman. They were obviously having a great time, Gregg too.
Luke and Gregg did a great job together in Ringo's band, too, from the videos I have seen. One of the great things I like about Ringo's band is that they play tunes everyone knows, but with great musicians who otherwise would probably never play together. They too obviously have a lot of fun.
Maybe Neal will drop the BS he has posting forever and just go out and have fun now.
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TNC
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Post by TNC on Feb 25, 2023 7:27:37 GMT -8
Gregg seems pretty grounded and reasonable. Not sure how he gets along with an impulsive mentally ill tool job like Neal. I mean that sincerely. He is not well.
The Black Magic Woman interplay between Neal and Luke was killer. Loose and jam-like. Which is what this band needs to get back to.
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Post by slucero on Mar 2, 2023 20:04:21 GMT -8
I can't believe people think "now that Greg has done a 50th show, Perry should too... " Why the fuck would Perry every get back in that shitshow... only to have Schon start re-pestering him about "doing something, touring, doing an album"... IMHO Perry answered that question in the lyrics from "No More Cryin": Verse 1 is clearly about Kelli IMHO the rest is about Journey.... and the "Don't fuck with me" look he gives the camera when he sings the bridge has nothing to do with Kelli... [Verse 1] Well she told me that she loved me That was not so long ago Love's forsaken and forgotten On this lost and lonely road She could heal my complications Hold me up when i was low, low That was all so long ago [Chorus] No more cryin’ 'Cause I won't love again I won’t, no I won't No more cryin' 'Cause I won't love again I won't, no I won't [Verse 2] I'm so free, I need nobody No more lies, no surprises, no confrontations It’s a peaceful life behind closed doors In the dark of the night, I start to remember That was all so long ago [Chorus] No more cryin’ 'Cause I won’t love again I won't, I won't, I won't [Bridge] When you told me you really want me I was all by myself, oh-oh, oh-oh Then you told me that you loved me And there is nobody else
[Chorus] No more cryin’ 'Cause I won’t love again I won't, I won't, I won't
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Post by tj on Mar 2, 2023 20:18:46 GMT -8
I don't think SP has the voice stamina to do it well live anymore, and that's ok. He gave what he had to it years ago and has no reason, desire or need to go back. Watching the sh1tshow that is Neal's behavior would absolutely settle the issue. Anyone who wants or thinks otherwise completely misunderstands the history.
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